Comments on: Shaman Nerfed – World LOL’s

By: fenisector

fenisector — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:27:32 +0000

I’ve been playing a Enhance shammy for a few months now, all post BC. Gearing him to be a 60 twink for reason’s mentioned above about resiliance. Yes, it is frustrating expecially PVP. I never knew the glory days of the enhance shaman but PVP now as a enhance is just plain sad. Clothies can tear us new ones now and in a big way.
Mages nova then step out of melee and into slow cooldown spell zone and rip us with massive spell dmg which are only defense is Earth shock. Warriors and pallies daze/stun effects shift behind us and begin to lay us low due to poor armor. Druids and rogues stealth behind us and trust me if that happens grab a cold one cause ur dead. Locks dot and fear us like everything else. Hunters stay ranged and if u cant close the distance for a frost shock ur dead.Even the frost shock doesnt guarantee melee range due to slow CD,pet abilities and traps. The priest PVP will usually mana burn you and flash heal until help arrives or just fear and run off. Other shamans now those are fights but out of 20 AV matchs i MIGHT run into a one enemy shaman. Shamans are truly a dying breed.
Often in PVP i am forced to try and sneak up on ALL classes to get that surprise effect. In which i should have just rolled a rogue. Alas though i yearn for the day that my enhance shammy might be able to take on a melee in PVP 1v1.

By: NBM

NBM — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:20:15 +0000

For me, the main problem is, that the enh-spec is a awesome leveling and grinding spec. In all the old content till level 60 we do really well.

But do not ever try this on a PVP-Server. It is slaughter. You will get killed even by a group of 2 players 6 level below you. This is no fun.

Another point is, that most players stay enh. for the whole time, while leveling.
After reaching maximum level, this spec is a no-go, at least on PVP-Servers. That hurts.

Our Itemization is very bad, our survivability is nearly not existent and we cannot do burst-damage anymore, because of resilence.

And just as I said, beeing a Shaman on a PVP Server is not funny, its just
frustrating.

Since I do not see the point, beeing slaughtert all the time while doing the dalies for the epic mount and doing bgs for better pvp gear etc etc
I decided it is time to quit.

May your totems prosper again in the futur.

By: Gorbadar

Gorbadar — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:01:08 +0000

hey i play a shaman i was enhance pre BC and am elemental resto now 40/0/21 the nerfe was gay as hell but we are still one of the best classes in the game and i think they will buff us in The expansion .

By: Milkshakes

Milkshakes — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:42:24 +0000

Just a general fact, but Rogues *ARE* underpowered in pvp now. Blizzard likes teasing us and when we use it, they gimp it. They seem to be pointing us more towards raiding now, looking to make hemo a “team helper” then a “rogue dps move.”

Locks obviously aren’t underpowered, though, and neither are shaman, it seems. I was pvping last night in WSG, despite the fact I was 62, the shaman was 65, and spiked my health from full to zip in a matter of 6 seconds or so, now that’s ridiculous.

I would hardly say all classes have crowd control. At least, the Rogues is something that there is more to be desired. Purely because Sap is only useless if you can just on someone that’s not in combat, and is fairly alone. A rogue is mainly a 1v1 pvp class, in BGs, that sucks, and is a rarity. Seems Shamans are just pure rape, being able to do an amazing powerful heal, and heal pretty much the whole party.

I must thank you for vouching at how overpowered your class is, but at the same time, it scares me to think that people actually think Rogues are overpowered/fine in pvp. It’s actually rather funny.

By: CW

CW — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:55:15 +0000

I think people are just being picky, I have been playing since WoW was released as a lock, hunter and recently rolled a shaman cause they are great for healing, and still have a nasty burst damage. Yeah it isnt what it used to be but im not even fully geared yet (bout 9/16 pvp) but for pvp the only class that can still kill me one on one with that gear is warlock… water shield is imba and earth shock has 5 secs cd (im hybrid build 31/0/30 but have been changing between 40/0/21 and 21/0/40) earth shield is idd useless for pvp as are the other two 41 point talents. They do require a lot more skill to play than a warlock or hunter, maybe this is why people complain ? Either way I think shaman is a much more fun class than hunter even after the patch, I have to think about the fight more and HOW i can help, hunter and lock have a crude form of most the things shamans have, for example purge is a lot better than felhunter or arcane shot. ALL physical damage classes (none hybrid) have MS, obviously shamans dont. Also shamans dont have any crowd control.. But everything else a shaman has is better than the average to make up for it, reliable armor and 1.5 sec high heals are just a start. Water shield regens over 600 mana every 9 secs while ure under attack, at decent gear ure talking at least 6 hpm being 3600 health every 9 secs just from water shield mana regen alone… People seem to be forgetting that shamans didnt have water shield Pre-BC and just how good it is. For arena my current build will be awsome. My healing with lesser healing wave is still brilliant which is usually the best to use in arena and once someone gets low i can earth shock the healer and use an instant cast or none instant cast crit with CL hitting for around 2.2k on high resi, while my dps team mate can still be doing high dps, should be dead before a heal is released. Against 2 dps a shaman should be able to survive due to 1.5 sec high heals, 12k health and a high amount of armor (keeping in mind that MS comes from physical damage classes) in pvp gear. While ofc your mana isnt going as low as a paladins would be, fair enough paladins get bubble, BoF and BoP but they need that bubble tremor totems are fairly underated. Hybrid shammys also get better dps than pallys and natures swiftness, and hate to mention it again but better mana control. Check any of the forums and you will also see nearly every class is complaining that they are underpowered, even rogues and locks (hahaha). People also seem to forget that even with only 30 points in resto shaman healing is hard to beat in resto gear.. Thanks for reading my wall of text ^^

By: Growl

Growl — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:33:24 +0000

good points…every single one…

But.

Thrall didn’t wear a dress.

He didn’t dual wield either. I think a lot of folks want a return to *that* kind of Shaman. A bursty 2-Hander Swinging hybrid that *might* heal you – but would be more inclined to mash LITTLE GNOMES to PASTE…

Sorry…sorry….

By: Kinless

Kinless — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:21:51 +0000

My Shaman leveled up as Enhancement, and went Resto to raid in Molten Core and BWL.

When it came time to level up again, he went Enhancement again.

Reaching 70 he had a choice. Heal or Cast. I already played a Tank, so I decided I’d play a Caster for the alt/2nd main.

Because getting my hands on Enhancement gear I’d have to convince a Hunter I needed that set piece (Desolation), I’d have to be running in Heroics to get access to it, and frankly I’m dumbfounded that there are so many well geared, raiding, Alliance Enhancement Shamans. They certainly took the myth and ran with it, never once stopping and asking themselves the foolish question “Since we can heal, we ought to heal,” or worse be told by their Guild Master “Since you can heal, you will heal. Since our Priests are all Shadow now.”

There was a blog, a bit back, called Shamanistic Rage. All about life as an Enhancement Shaman that was raiding. And all the advantages they brought to a raid. And all the gear they had via raiding that I’d never see. This was a Draenei player living the dream, a god in the myth of OP Shamans. They wound up going Resto.

And when I’m not laying down the damage to the best of my ability in Alterac Valley, I’m used as luncheon meat in the other battlegrounds, lately Eye of the Storm. Oh, I get as often as I’m gotten so no regrets there.

The wife played an Enhancement Shaman with my Protection Warrior, but she’s Elemental now, and loving it. Enhancement Shamans actually bother me when I’m tanking. They tend to be massive, furry, and in the way of my vision. Y’all get to the back and single target kill the skulls, k? (Rogues have sense enough to do it from behind, and Arms Warriors simply off-tank their own targets.)

Anyway, back to Shamans. “Look to the gear to see what Blizzard is expecting from us.” I’ve always said this. What does Blizzard think Shamans are doing now? Elemental. Look at Tidefury, the five piece Dungeon 3 set. That’s not a Healing set. There’s healing pieces out there if you know where to look. There’s even a second, eight piece, Elemental psuedo-set that comes out of Normal and Heroic instances. (It looks a little like the old Tier 1 set.)

Back pre-TBC, Tiers 1, 2, then 3, all of it was exclusively for the Restoration Shaman. Now they’ve given us Tidefury and I have no idea what Tier 4 Shaman gear looks like, I see it so seldom. (And when our Resto Shamans come to heal an instance in Tidefury, and don’t even throw an occasional lightning bolt… sigh!)